But the more outwardly focused we become in loving relationships, the more joyful and meaningful our lives also become over time. So in that sense, our human free choices, particularly the bad ones, are genuine obstacles that God must work around as he tries to bring his loving purposes to fruition.
Because God is infinitely great, the slightest offense against him is also infinitely serious; and if an offense is infinitely serious, then no suffering the sinner might endure over a finite period of time could possibly pay for it. Because the Augustinians hold that, in our present condition at least, God owes us nothing, they also believe that the grace he confers upon a limited elect is utterly gratuitous and supererogatory.
I believe that heaven can not thoroughly be explained, even by the Scriptures, for it must be too wonderful for words and it must be too indescribable to relate to by word pictures.
Although the problem of evil is the Heaven to hell of another entry see the entry on The Problem of Evilthe relevant point for the topic of heaven is just this: So while in hell, these inhabitants do not even continue rejecting God freely in any sense that requires the psychological possibility of choosing otherwise.
Beyond that, the most critical issue at this point concerns the relationship between free choice, on the one hand, and character Heaven to hell, on the Heaven to hell. Anselm illustrated such an appeal with the following example. Either our seriously deluded beliefs, particularly those with destructive consequences in our own lives, are in principle correctable by some degree of powerful evidence against them, or the choices that rest upon them are simply too irrational to qualify as free moral choices.
In no way does it follow, of course, that only one proposition in the set is false, and neither does it follow that at least two of them are true. God therefore owes us forgiveness for the same reason that human parents owe it to their children to forgive them in the event that they misbehave.
Or suppose, if you prefer, that someone should be at least partly responsible for having become cognitively impaired—as when, for example, a teenager foolishly experiments with powerful drugs and ends up with a scrambled brain and an utterly deluded and irrational set of beliefs.
Third, if, as Anselm insisted, even the slightest offense against God is infinitely serious and thus deserves a permanent loss of happiness as a just recompense, then the idea, so essential to the retributive theory, that we can grade offenses and fit lesser punishments to lesser crimes appears to be in danger of collapsing.
There is no mistaking that this place was quite real to the rich man. If all of those in hell, including the condemned infants, are dead in the theological sense of being separated from God forever, and if this implies a permanent loss of both the beatific vision and every other conceivable source of worthwhile happiness, then they have all received a punishment so severe that the further grading of offenses seems pointless.
I believe we can. So why, one may wonder at this point, do the Augustinians believe that anyone—whether it be Judas Iscariot, Saul of Tarsus, or Adolph Hitler—actually deserves unending torment as a just recompense for their sins?
Perhaps the most commonly expressed answer concerns the possibility of an irrevocable decision to reject God forever. So in neither case would sinners be able to retain forever their libertarian freedom to continue separating themselves from the ultimate source of human happiness. The second heaven is where the sun, the moon, and the stars abide.
With good reason, therefore, do we exclude small children, the severely brain damaged, paranoid schizophrenics, and even dogs from the class of free moral agents. This is no cloud floating, harp playing place, but an actual, literal location with real, tangible things in it.
If he should perpetually prevent them from following their chosen path, then they would have no real freedom to do so; and if he should permit them to follow it—to continue opting for what he knows will be an objective horror—then their own experience, provided they are rational enough to qualify as free moral agents, would eventually shatter their illusions and remove their libertarian freedom in this matter.
But still, one wonders how this suffering woman—a committed Christian, by the way—could ever achieve supreme happiness knowing that the son she continued to love was destined to be lost forever without any future hope of redemption.
Consider the two kinds of conditions under which we humans typically feel justified in interfering with the freedom of others see Talbott a, The Augustinian Understanding of Hell Behind the Augustinian understanding of hell lies a commitment to a retributive theory of punishment, according to which the primary purpose of punishment is to satisfy the demands of justice or, as some might say, to balance the scales of justice.
This lack of specificity is by design. Many people have images of us going to heaven and floating on a cloud and playing harps while chubby little cherub angels fly around us. So perhaps God knows from the outset that his triumph will never be complete no matter what he does; as a result, he merely does the best he can to minimize his defeat, to cut his losses, and in the process to fill heaven with more than he might otherwise have managed to save.
Harm that no human being can repair may nonetheless be harm that God can repair. Heaven is very real or the Bible is wrong, which we know that it is not. These too, according to Augustine, deserve to be condemned along with the human race as a whole.
My first thought is that heaven is any place where God is and hell is anyplace where God is absent.
Because the Augustinians, named after St. Suppose that a man is standing atop the Empire State Building with the intent of committing suicide by jumping off and plunging to his death below.
They therefore reject the doctrine of limited election on the ground that it undermines the concept of grace altogether.
When a reporter asked the mother of Ted Bundy, a serial murderer of young women, whether she could still support a son who had become a monster, her answer provided a poignant illustration of the problem.
If a mother should love her child even as she loves herself, for example, then any evil that befalls the child is likewise an evil that befalls the mother and any good that befalls the child is likewise a good that befalls the mother; hence, it is simply not possible, according to this argument, for God to will the best for the mother unless he also wills the best for the child as well.
For an expanded statement of this argument, see Talbott b, —, and Talbott— So the context in which we humans emerge with a first person perspective and then begin developing into minimally rational agents virtually guarantees, it seems, that we would repeatedly misconstrue our own interests and pursue them in misguided ways; it also includes many sources of misery, at least some of which—the horror of war, horrifying examples of inhumanity to children, people striving to benefit themselves at the expense of others, etc.
So one is not free to accomplish some action or to achieve some end, unless God permits one to experience the chosen end, however confusedly one may have chosen it; and neither is one free to separate oneself from God, or from the ultimate source of human happiness as Christians understand it, unless God permits one to experience the very life one has chosen and the full measure of misery that it entails.
Jesus said that heaven was as a place and that He would come back to take us with Him to be where He is.
He thus explicitly states that rejecting God in his broad sense requires neither an awareness of God nor a conscious decision, however confused it may be, to embrace a life apart from God.
Only God, however, has the power to achieve true restoration in the case of murder, for only God can resurrect the victims of murder as easily as he can the victims of old age.Few things could be more important than what happens to us when this life ends.
Most people believe the Bible teaches that we will go to either heaven or hell at death. They. Heaven and Hell Lyrics: Sing me a song, you're a singer / Do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil / The Devil is never a maker / The less that you give, you're a taker / So, it's on and on and on.
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